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 * 10/10/11**
 * Discussion from Google Docs**
 * 8:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.**
 * All members present**
 * Me = Kayla**

erin_schneider erin_schneider has opened the document. **erin_schneider: **i am here **me: **I'm here as well **erin_schneider: **are you doing the learner analysis for the students who will use the book? **me: **So, I was reading in the textbook & it says to conduct some form of preliminary evaluation for the learner analysis..have you done an evaluation? yes I am doing the learner analysis for the students who will use the book **erin_schneider: **We are in the land of make beleive... and I beleive that it is all made up... I can let you know what I have done for students... allowing students to free write and judging on the 6+1 rubric shows what they need help with shows the strength and weaknesses klrollins1106 has opened the document. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok...thanks for your help **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">i hope that helps. <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">i cant imagine this being a huge organizer.. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">have you decided what type of chart you will use? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Hi everyone **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I downloaded iMindMap, and I like it allright right now.. I am working on it.. I have used mindmeister in the past **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">hey Katie **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">hey Katie.. <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">lbussey has opened the document. <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">lbussey has opened the document. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Oh...I have used Inspiration in the past and I really like it. <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">lbussey has opened the document. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Yeah I like inspiration too **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">hi ladies! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">maybe I'm being crazy...but I'm just confused without giving students an evaluation because it says determine prerequisite knowledge (and I don't know how to do that without an evaluation to show it) **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">hey ladies **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">hello everyone **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">knsmith- I think it means to determine like the standards- the prerequisite skills that students should have before entering **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok..that helps **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">For example, students should know how to write a basic sentence before entering second grade **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">their standards.. <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">we are focusing on 2nd grade, right? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I am good with second if everyone else is <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">lbussey has left. <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">lbussey has left. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">2nd is good **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes, second grade is fine with me  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">okay, just wanted to make sure **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Are we all good with our choice of task or learner **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I am  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yeah, im good.. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes I am  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">was i right about that being the same? I just figure that the task is for the students and not necessairly for the teachers.. the teachers is who implements **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I think you're right **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">its not really a training book for adults.. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes- I just heard Dr. Wissick mention those 3 choices that you see in a video or something. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">i saw that too.. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">So now we just need to decide on the differnet organizational charts- is that right? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">i think so... i can copy and paste what i have started at the bottom for teachers **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">awesome erin <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">What shoudl I call that chart that I posted- any ideas- just a flow chart you thing?? <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">think I mean **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">maybe flow chart main idea (since one box is at the top?) **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I would call that a flow chart **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">OK- I will call it a flow chart...  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">okay... that is what i have started.. i have no idea if im right or not.. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ooo- Erin that looks SO cool! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">wow that's good erin **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I really like it!!! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">thanks.. concept map using iMindMap5 (I have a free trial right now.. :))  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">That's awesome- love the colors  <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">OK- so what are you thinking Kayla and Katie?  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">we are doing this for South Carolina 2nd graders right? I just want to make sure I am using the right evaluations   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes Erin- that is what I am thinking too **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">okay just making sture **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Well, I haven't actually started my graphic organizer...I have been trying to organizer everything that I will put into it <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">organize* **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Does it matter what kind of organizer we use? or do we just not need to use the same kind? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">should it be really detailed? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I havent started mine either **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I haven't started either- I think we are just supposed to make sure we each use a differnt type of organizer- that they look different **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">is there anything else we need except for the graphic organizer?? I added an ANALYSIS graphic to our wiki tonight **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">oh good! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Her example was not hat detailed **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">I think we just have to add a description with our organizer when we load it on the wiki- thanks erin! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">i truly think it is more of the process of communication more than the output, but all are truly important.. <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">description? what its saying.. ? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes- I agree Erin- the process seems to be the most important- like what we are doing now- over the product **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok I'm just really worried about leaving something out **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ditto kayla!! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes ditto! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yea- there is something in our directions for this week that says to add a couple of sentences about the organizer- hold on - I will find it <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">Ditto ditto kayla haha **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">:)  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">OK- it ways EAch team member will embed their own graphic organizer and discuss the purpose and relationship to the project.   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">purpose of our particular section of the organizer?   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes erin and how it relates to the project as a whole I guess **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">okay... <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">we also have to email her to show her its ready, am i right? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">yes **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">So if Kayla and Katie just selects organizers that lok different from Erin and Leslie and different from each other then I think we are good to go, right? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">do we all want to say, lets have the stuff loaded by 10pm on Wednesday night? and then someone will check and email Dr Wisick? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok...well I'll send Katie my organizer choice after I decide **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">i beleive so leslie **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">that sounds good erin **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Sounds good to me too **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">sounds good **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">who wants to email her? **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">both Kayla and Erin <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">I can <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">no problem :) **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok so Katie's e-mailing her?   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Yes  <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">10 Wednesday  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Great- I have a sick child and I am so tired and I haven't started on the actual task analysis yet so I am going to say goodnight if that is ok with everyone. I think this was very productive. I am LOVIJNG google docs!! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">and you can email me your organizer **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok that sounds good **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">klrollins1106: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">goodnight everyone! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">no problem.. ditto :)  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">hey erin - can I ask you a few questions   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">sure, no problem  <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">klrollins1106 has left.  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Goodnight- so I am emailing me organizer to you klrollins or putting it on the wiki myself- you lost me there   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">you put it on the wiki your self.. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">lbussey: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">OK- that's what I thought- thanks- goodnight all! **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">by Wednesday night at 10pm... and then Katie will email Wisick and let her know they are all there **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok so targeting the learners who will use the book - should I just focus on average 2nd graders? because it talks about learning disabled students or gifted and talented students <span style="color: gray; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">lbussey has left. **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">you can include them in the anaylsis beucase those type of kids are in your room... <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">reading the book will help with auditory, graphics for visual... etc...  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok thanks for your help...maybe it will make more sense to me when I'm finished! :)  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">as you analyize students just see about every type of kid.. the book will appeal to different learners..   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok thanks   **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">erin_schneider: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">no problem.. i hope that helps  <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">if you need anything, let me know  **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">me: **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">ok thanks...I'll e-mail you if I have any other questions! <span style="color: black; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: middle;">good night :)